I'm here AG?!*$? Need help?

AG, I need your advice. Ok, I%26#39;m here now and wondering what%26#39;s the closest place (that%26#39;s good) for breakfast around 8th and Washington? Also, at night, would you say that it%26#39;s pretty safe for me to travel alone as a woman? ......... and is the Miami Bay Cruise better than the Duck Tour? Thanks Sweetie :)

I'm here AG?!*$? Need help?

Sha%26gt;

Sorry - are you still waiting to have breakfast or did you hook up with the Irish Guys at the Clevelander yet? I think utilizing the length of Ocean Drive is the safest walking street for travelling north/south at night. Sometimes Washington Av feels a little rough as the guys hanging out in front of the bodegas are kind of (harmless but) sketchy...

Tomorrow -

You can start the day at any of the little walk up Cuban bodegas and have a strong cafe Cubano and a pan Cubano. This is a super strength espresso fortified with a lot of sugar and served in a thimble (trust me - a little goes a long way) with a raft of crispy toasted extra light grill-pressed bread. Miami runs on this breakfast of champions. Most places serve right out on the sidewalk through a little window, but some have a counter inside offering just squeezed juices too. Check this out one morning... (Puerto Sagua at 7/Collins is everyone%26#39;s favorite Cuban Cafe 24/7).

If you are more a bacon and eggs type, the Front Porch Cafe on 14/Ocean Drive has a lovely menu to start the day. The News Cafe is further South at 9/Ocean but is a go-to spot for visitors and locals alike. This is closest to the Clinton. On weekends the lawyer-wannabe-bikers ride up on their shiny new Harleys and pose and preen in front of the News Cafe. It%26#39;s kind of a midlife crisis performance art thing... (you%26#39;ll see and laugh and think of me!!)

You can also do what every red-blooded American does and walk 10 steps in any direction and find a Starbucks to customize a cup of something... with a low fat muffin to go. You want them - we have them. There are 3 separate Starbuck%26#39;s on Lincoln Mall. The closest to the Clinton is 2/Ocean...

There are lovely brunches as well. On Sunday - Spend a little extra at Nemo (100 Collins) and you can eat all you want and you will want to eat PLENTY. The food is spectacular and not the usual sweaty chafing dishes most places fill with stale eggs and dry ham. The kitchen has an open counter top and the dishes they refresh all morning are filled with unusual treats you%26#39;re not soon to forget. Meanwhile, along the horseshoe-shaped bar, the pastry chefs set out cakes and cobblers and cookies and pie - oh - my!

Just across the street at 2/Collins is the all day and all night diner Big Pink which serves huge plates of breakfast standards (including my favorite breakfast burrito) and a host of giant salads, juicy burgers, wrap sandwiches and hefty desserts too. Be sure to substitute sweet potato fries for the regular ones on someone%26#39;s order - they are wonderful! Oh - did I mention the fries come in a BUCKET? So do the beers...

Around Lincoln Road, the other breakfast and brunchy-lunchy places worth mentioning are

Cafeteria 546 Lincoln,

Ice Box Cafe 1657 Michigan,

Balans 1022 Lincoln (which is actually cheaper on weekdays and has a lovely eggs benedict),

Nexxt 700 Lincoln (giant portions),

Van Dyke (live jazz every night on the 2nd floor), and

Paninoteca Sandwich Shop 809 Lincoln.

Just north of the mall on Meridian is David%26#39;s Cafe, the Cuban storefront to visit for that jet fuel cafe and a super reasonable breakfast menu (all locals, you%26#39;ll see!!)

Also near by is A la Folie Cafe on Espanola for a French pastry and a latte and crepes etc...

For the rest of the day and evening, you can check out

La Sandwicherie at 229 14th Street,

San Loco Tacos next door,

Spris/Tiramesu Italian 721 Lincoln,

Miss Yip%26#39;s Chinese across from David%26#39;s on Meridian,

Piola Pizza 1625 Alton at the west end of the mall under the movies for just-baked little pies,

Hosteria Romana on Espanola Way for great Italian,

Parilla Liberty 1925 Liberty Ave for grilled Argentinian meats,

Chalan on 15/Washington for wonderful Peruvian food,

Rosinella 525 Lincoln for pasta,

Grillfish seafood 14/Collins,

Bond Street 150 20th for hip sushi,

Sushi Siam 646 Lincoln for Thai,

Altamar seafood 1223 Lincoln

or the comfort food destination Joe Allen%26#39;s 1787 Purdy 305-531-7007 (my favorite local%26#39;s hangout).

... that should keep your belly (and your wallet) reasonably full!

I think DUCK... Washington at Lincoln is the office (NE corner).

Have Fun. ...sorry I missed breakfast.

AG

acne get worse

suggestions

Out of towner 1st time going to St. Pete going to Tropicana Field. What is there to do around the area and is it a safe area to walk around? My hotel is about 1.3 miles from the park. Any help is greatly appricated.

suggestions

On central ave near Tropicana Field there are numerous restaurants--Fergs-and antique stores. I would not be comfortable walking around there unless I was in a big group. There are several halfway houses in the area and you get a lot of - -shall we say undesireables? Beyond that downtown St. Pete is close and has a lot to do. Check out Baywalk and the Pier.

suggestions

Previous poster is right on - don%26#39;t walk around down by the Tropicana Fields. Downtown, on the other hand, is VERY pedestrian friendly. If you have a car, you can drive to downtown and then walk all over it to your heart%26#39;s content. There are tons of things to do downtown.

The Pier is obvious - you must go to the Pier. There%26#39;s a little shopping (maybe 6 shops on the ground floor) but it%26#39;s just a cool place to visit and lots of visitors have enjoyed going there for a sunset and a drink. There are several restaraunt%26#39;s there but Columbo%26#39;s is the only one I have ever heard anyone say was really something special. Al Fresco%26#39;s is an outside restaurant right by the Pier that a lot of people like but reviews have have made it sound like it might be all about location, good food and location with customer service somewhat lacking.

I would suggest that you go to The Dish or Dan Marino%26#39;s over in Baywalk for dinner instead anyway. If you have all night, you might try the Melting Pot, a fondue restaurant a minute or two north of downtown. The Dish is a neat experience though - you pick from a buffet of different ingredients (pastas, veggies, meats, etc) and they cook it in front of you on an enormous grill in the center of the restaraunt. If you go to Dan Marino%26#39;s, try the lemon portobello chicken -out of this world.

If you want to take in a club afterwards, try the Martini Bar next to Dan Marino%26#39;s or walk a block or two over to Dino%26#39;s Jazz bar. The piano player starts at 8:30 (but check their web site %26#39;cause they have added other specialty nights).

If you just want to stroll around downtown after dinner, you might try the ghost tour. It meets at Baywalk and walks all around downtown. Their costumes are lame (sorry, guys) but the tour guides are actors and their deliveries are quite good. It has more focus on history than ghosts but most people who like ghost tours also like history tours.

If you have more daytime hours, you should definitely see Sunken Gardens, just north of downtown. It is around 8 or 10 bucks and it is the most breathtaking tropical garden, you won%26#39;t believe it can be so close to downtown. It also has birds, koi ponds and a butterfly house.

If it rains, there are tons of museums downtown - art, history, Salvador Dali, etc. That reminds me that you don%26#39;t have to hoof it all over downtown either - there is a downtown looper trolley that will take you all over for 25 cents. It%26#39;s a set route but I think that you will find that it is plenty.

Don%26#39;t forget that we have a great beach on the Gulf of Mexico too. Actually, there are two - St. Pete Beach and Fort DeSoto. Tons of biking, kayaking, swimming, hiking, picnicing and boating opportunities.

That%26#39;s my Must Do list but there are a lot of other things you can do. If you have any specific interests, please say.

Oops - I DID forget! If you are looking for more energetic venues, check out Jannus Landing and State Theatre. They have everything from Paula Poundstone to Fabulous Thunderbirds to grunge and hip hop bands.

Great post swimswam. I was born and raised in Tampa/St. Pete and you came up with things I have never thought of doing. I have never been to Sunken Gardens and, by your description, it sounds great. We also have not done the Ghost Tour but I have heard great things about the one out at Jungle Prada and have put it on the agenda for ';someday.';

As far as restaurants got if you are near the Dali museum Fish Tales down on Salt Creek is really a fun casual lunch or dinner. It is hidden in the boat yard but has the best food at the best prices with great drinks and the classic tacky old Florida decor. We love it.

thanks for your help this has been very helpfull.

Red Tide & Robby's

We will be coming back to Madeira Beach again in a few weeks. Last year the red tide was bad. Is it around again this year?

Also, any chance that Robby%26#39;s has relented and is now serviing pancakes again? What are some other good breakfast places in the area?

Thanks!

Red Tide %26amp; Robby's

Haven%26#39;t heard a peep about Red Tide this year. Don%26#39;t know about Robby%26#39;s.

Red Tide %26amp; Robby's

SSS - I heard from someone that lives near St. Pete that the red tide occurs evey other year. Is this true?

My understanding is that no one knows exactly what causes Red Tide so they can%26#39;t predict when it will occur or where or how long it will last. Last year the predominant theory they had on the news was how warm the gulf was combined with how much rain there had been. Of course, if those were the sole factors, we would have it every year!

This year the gulf is not as warm as it was last year (we were already up to Dennis by now last year in comparison to only having one named hurricane so far this year). But it is anyone%26#39;s guess as the water gets warmer.

I have only live in St. Pete for one year and Florida for two so I can%26#39;t attest to what has happened in the past as to frequency. There is a poster in the Tampa forum (Tampan) who might know and there is a poster in the Treasure Island forum who should certainly know (Travworld). Travworld hasn%26#39;t been on since April though so you would want to use his post to contact him - you can%26#39;t miss it, I promise. You might have better luck catching Tampan in the Tampa forum since he?she? checks TA very frequently.

Thanks for the info...10 days to go until I get to enjoy your gorgeous beach and great seafood! Can%26#39;t wait! (:

Robby%26#39;s has been closed now for some time and there is a new restaurant coming in it%26#39;s place... Middlegrounds Steakhouse. No place will ever compare to Robby%26#39;s... the very best pancakes around.

beauty consultant

Miami Beach in Aug

Hi Im sure this has been covered a heap of times before but ....

Im planning on heading to Miami for 3 nights in mid August to celebrate my birthday with my sister and just wondered if anyone can advise on where to stay, best clubs etc and also what kind of cover charge I should expect to pay to get into the clubs? Oh and one last question - is there a good place that shows the English premier league football games - sad I know but Im missing the first weekend of the season and would like to watch my team play if possible

Thanks!

Miami Beach in Aug

Blue Babe%26gt;

The World Cup is over and ';FootBallFever'; along with it. There is a dive bar called Churchill%26#39;s in Miami at 55/2nd Ave that shows all the English Football games. This is where we went to watch the Cup. it is a dodgy area but the bar itself plays second home to every Brit living in or visiting our city during games. 305.757.1807

www.churchillspub.com

You might try the Playwright Irish Pub on Washington Avenue, but I make no promises...

What is your budget for a night at a hotel and do you prefer a full service resort or just a simple place to rest between outings? there are so many good choices. I suggest yo click the link at left to read a few reviews of the top 20 Beach Hotels and see what suits your needs/budget.

To get an idea of the club scene, see www.cooljunkie.com

Know that the club cruise down here takes you to a different hot spot each night of the week so the listings are categorized by night. Just compare the 3 nights you will be here to the listings for those dates.

The newest spot on South Beach has not opened yet - but will be sizzling when you arrive (fingers crossed) -Mokai on 23rd Street.

Enjoy!

AG

Miami Beach in Aug

Hi AG

Thanks for the notes - for the hotel basically around $50 - $70 would be ok (if Ive got my excahnge rates right!) - I would stay in the cheapest but my sister has slightly grander tastes so really as long as its clean and in good location that would be fine - are there any areas we should avoid?

Think Ill skip the pub for football if its a dive - get enough of that at home!!

Blue%26gt;

Click the blue link at the top left that reads ';Miami Beach Hotels'; and see what the top 20 options are - based upon real people%26#39;s recent travels...

The Impala is always highly regarded and is at 12/Ocean - a party central spot. The Park Central is recently refurbished and the Atlantica is a great budget place (under $100 night). Also inexpensive and highly rated are the Clay on Espanola, The Townhouse and the Villa Paradiso. All of these areas are completely safe.

Any hotel at 17th Street and below (all the way to 1st) is the optimal location for beach, restaurants, shopping and clubs.

Good Luck!

AG

Romantic Ideas

My boyfriend and I are going to SoBe next month and I want to plan some romantic things for us to do...anyone have any ideas?

Romantic Ideas

Sobe%26gt;

Go to Smith %26amp; Wollensky around 3.30 or 4 on the weekend to have a snack and a drink by the water to watch the cruise ships glide by. Stop behind the Raleigh Hotel for a snack and a drink to be by the water and a beautiful pool. Many hotels near 17th have a bar by the most beautiful pools and beaches.

Nikki Beach is the go to spot on the sand. On your first few days, get up in the morning and walk on the beach to see the views for yourself south of 21st Street.

Eat breakfast or brunch at the Front Porch Cafe, have a drink in the afternoon at the Clevelander, have a snack at the News Cafe... One night, go to Taverna Opa on 1/Ocean for dinner.

The fun spots to meet other young people are Lincoln Mall and Espanola Way near the Clay Hotel, Lost Weekend Bar on Espanola (14th), Piola west of Lincoln at Alton, Segafreddo at the west end of Lincoln...

Check out BASE on the Mall, Books %26amp; Books, and the new HEAR music listening station too!

You will have a great trip!!

AG

Destin area suggestions

A group of us, 10 adults and 8 children (6 to 15 years old) are going to Seagrove Beach for the first time before the end of july. We will be staying for a week and wonder if anyone here can recommend What%26#39;s best to do, and what%26#39;s nearby. Is Destin only about a 20 minute drive from Seagrove? I see some very informative posters

on this forum and will greatly appreciate any useful information about what%26#39;s nearby.

Any restaurants, (not too pricey), should we try? Any things not to miss, any special deals, etc. Anything interesting off the beaten path?

Any other websites to check with honest information?

And can anyone recommend the best route to take from Atlanta?

Any responses will be greatly appreciated.

Destin area suggestions

We are staying in Blue Mountain in September and sowal.com is an excellent forum/website for the area- especially good discussions on the forums. I also like beachesofsouthwalton.com- be sure to order their visitors guide. 30-a.com is a little dated but still a great virtual tour of the bike trail.

Destin area suggestions

Thanks for the web suggestions. Got the Visitors guide.

Have a great day!

Dave

Take your bicycles if you can. Seagrove/Seaside is a great place to bike around.

We always stay in Destin, but we always make a trip out to 30A to Elmo%26#39;s Grill. You%26#39;ll find it on the left just before 30A runs back into 98. Pretty good food and a fun place to eat dinner. The kids will have fun dancing to the musician playing Buffett tunes and island music.

I would say check out the Seaside forum on this website, but there isn%26#39;t any activity on it, so don%26#39;t bother.

Sorry I can%26#39;t be more helpful. We usually just make one trip down to Seaside to look around and then we%26#39;re back to Destin. And yes, it%26#39;s only about 20 minutes.

Cheers

I would love to read a trip report when you get back with your experiences and suggestions. I%26#39;ll watch for you on the Seagrove Beach forum or maybe on sowal.com

Thanks for the suggestions. Should I oil up my bike or is it easier to rent one?

Elmo%26#39;s sounds good and close by. Might try it if the rest of the gang is willing.

Hopefully I%26#39;ll be able to post a glowing trip report, unless, from what I%26#39;ve read around here lately, the sun, skeeters, snakes or gators don%26#39;t get me first.

Have a safe and fun weekend! Next week we will!

Don%26#39;t forget about the sharks, riptides and jellyfish! They can spoil a trip report too!

Hi Dave,

Don%26#39;t miss the Red Bar in Grayton Beach. It is a funky little restaurant and not too expensive. The kids will love it! Also, you might want to spend some time wandering around ';downtown'; Grayton before or after you eat. Cafe 3 thirty 1 at the foot of the bridge on 331 is another reasonably priced, fun restaurant. (Owned by the Red Bar people.)

If the parents get out one night without kids be sure to go to Cafe 30A. On the expensive side but excellent!

There is not a lot to do along 30A but enjoy the beach. There is a very nice walking/biking/running trail that runs the length of highway 30A. Unless you have room I wouldn%26#39;t bother to bring a bike. They can be rented in Seaside and probably other places as well. There is probably more going on in Seaside than anywhere else. Often there are free outdoor concerts.

You might consider a day trip or two to Destin if you want more in the way of entertainment. I am sure the kids would enjoy Big Kahunas.

There is Publix in Watercolor for groceries. From Seagrove go west on 30A till you get to the three way stop, then turn right. Publix will be on the right.

Driving from Atlanta, I think your best bet would be to go to Columbus, then south to Dothan. Get on 231 in Dothan and stay on it to Campbellton, then take 273 to I-10 (Chipley). Go west on I-10 till you get to 331 (De Funiak Springs) then go south to 98. Turn left onto 98 and drive a few miles till you see the Seagrove sign and turn right.

Have a great time. Post again if you have more questions.

Poodleone - thank you for the websites. Our group will be satying at a beach house in Blue Mountain July 22 -29 and both websites were very helpful. Thanks Suma for the tip on where to stop for groceries! I also read the reviews on Red Bar and I%26#39;m sure the virtual tour doesn%26#39;t do it justice. We have 4 teens 15 - 19 and 3 couples mid 40%26#39;s. We love casual places with fantastic seafood and drinks. Keep the suggestions coming!

Better check before you go to 331. It is closing. They are widening the road and the building has to go.

lot of oil refined

Help with Drections to the Beach?

We will be landing in Orlando Friday afternoon and heading straight for Daytona. The owner of the condo we are staying in recommended that we not take I-4 in, but rather, use I-95 being on a Friday evening at evening rush hour. Can someone give me good directions using I-95 from the Orlando Airport? THANKS! Malinda

Help with Drections to the Beach?

Sorry, Malinda, the most direct route I know from Orlando to Daytona is by I-4! The only other way I know would be to take Hwy. 50 out of Orlando, east, all the way to I-95, but at that point you would be way down below Titusville. You would then have to come all the way back up I-95 to Daytona, and that would probably take at least an hour, in addition to the 45 minutes it would take over on Hwy. 50 (I think it%26#39;s a four-lane with red lights all the way). Maybe someone else would know a better way, like hotandsandy, but I really think I-4 would still be the best bet!

Help with Drections to the Beach?

I 95 does not connect in Orlando. Maybe the condo owner said 92, which is not an interstate. I would say stay with I 4, be patient with the traffic and then connect to I 95 once 4 ends. There are several Daytona exits, if you need more info, just ask, someone will help ya out. Have a safe trip. Weather has been great!

Pull up Mapquest and print it out. They offer 3 different routes from the Orlando airport to Daytona. That is what we did and I took the directions with me. The route we chose goes close to Winter Park, has no tolls and was a good drive. Don%26#39;t forget to print the reverse return trip to the aiport out as well. I hope this helps.

Bonnie

Hey, there, I always land in Orlando and drive or get driven to Daytona, the trip there is beautiful, The traffic isn%26#39;t all that bad, if there happens to be traffic just be patient.

The drive from Orlando to Daytona is only about 1 hour, and if it rains, it will pour. So when you are driving and if you happen to get rain just slow down and make sure you concentrate, sometimes it rains so hard you can%26#39;t see infront of you!

Have a safe drive!

Pibb,

Thanks so much for all the helpful advice. I have printed out some Mapquest directions and have directions from the rental car company as well. Hoping for good beach weather and some relaxation-- topped off with the BEST food around. WE LOVE DAYTONA! Thanks again! Malinda

Malinda,

You are welcome. I agree Daytona is AWESOME! When are you leaving and did you get one of those great SWA deals?

Bonnie

We leave tomorrow morning. We didn%26#39;t get in on the SW air deals, but got a decent price of $230 per person, round trip, with Northwest. THere *may* be a Northwest strike while we are down in Daytona--what a shame if we got STUCK for a few extra days in paradise! LOL! Crossing my fingers for good weather~ Malinda

Have a safe and fun trip!

Pibb,

Malinda, I%26#39;m thinking what the guy is referring to is they way we go to Orlando airport. Out of the airport to Beeline towards Coco Beach and Titusville. You%26#39;ll travel through 1 toll and continue for about 40 miles till you get to 95North you%26#39;ll proceed on 95 until you hit the Port Orange/ Daytona Beach Shores Exit. You%26#39;ll make a right onto Dunlawton Ave travel that road until you actually will run into the beach. Believe me this guy is right. Much, Much quicker and much less traffic. We never go any other way. What is the name of the condo complex? I can then tell you from there which way to turn on A1A.

Malind,

LOL @ getting stuck in paradise. I hope you have good weather too. We were there June 2-12 and the weather was wonderful, not even as hot as it usually is. If you have access to a puter while you are there let us know how everything goes. My best wishes to you, have a safe and fun filled trip to paradise.

Bonnie

Please help: quite place but not too lazy.

Two young couple with two 2 y.o. kids are planning a trip to PCB area in a first week of Sept. We would like to have a nice calm water, clean beach and a stroller walk to dining and other activities (nothing big since we are with small kids). A house on a beach would be ideal but we don%26#39;t see too many choices... For now we consider Sterling Beach, Long Beach and West Panama city area. Budget up to $1400/week

Any help, advise or ideas are greatly appreciated!

Please help: quite place but not too lazy.

Shazka, you must consider Long Beach Resort. Go to www.vrbo.com. There you will find an ample offering of condos advertised by the owners themselves. By september you should be able to get a really great deal within your budget. LBR is awesome, with a quiet, clean beach, just the right amount of kids around to let you know there is life and fun to be had. There are plenty of young couples visiting there. You can walk to a great restaurant by way of the beach or on the strip called Pineapple Willy%26#39;s. There is also Pompano%26#39;s across the road. There is the All American Diner for that easy Cheeseburger and Fries, and Wal Mart is a half mile. There is also Mcdonalds, and KFC, The Waffle House, and Backyard Burgers right at your front door. Shopping for souvenirs abounds around LBR also. We loved it, wouldnt dream of coming anywhere else. Good Luck!

Looking for a great place to stay

My husband and I are coming with another couple to PCB to celebrate our 10th anniversary. I%26#39;m trying to decide on a place to stay--we%26#39;d like a balcony that makes the most of a beach view, and to be able to walk to some good restaurants and bars. I was looking at the Days Inn, Nautical Watch Condos, Sunbird Suites, or Paradise Found Resorts. Any ideas?

Looking for a great place to stay

I wouldn%26#39;t recomend the Nautical Watch, you do have the balcony overlooking the ocean but the condos themselves are very run down and shabby looking on the outside (don%26#39;t know about inside). I was just walking by them thinking that this morning thinking that I wouldn%26#39;t like to stay there)

Also, while the water was clear almost everywhere else this morning, about 10 yards of water directly in front of those condos was solid seaweed this morning. I don%26#39;t know if that%26#39;s a normal accxumulation point or if it was just the way the tides were this morning, but it was pretty icky.

Have you looked on vbro.com ?

If you%26#39;re planning a romantic nice anniversary dinner, the Saltwater Grill is awesome!

Looking for a great place to stay

Thanks for the tip about Nautical Watch..

I was just looking at vrbo.com, and saw some nice looking spots at the Summit (?), I think that was what it was called. I think it%26#39;s right next to Club LaVela...which we might want to visit, but we%26#39;re not crazy about really loud music all night long. Any ideas?

Thanks for your help!

LaVela is really not too wild when it%26#39;s not spring break, so you might not be bothered staying close to there. I know a lot of college kids stay at the Summit during Spring Break, but I%26#39;m not sure what it%26#39;s like the rest of the year. Some other people here might know better than me. I%26#39;m great with advice on restaurants and shopping, but since we live here, I don%26#39;t know a whole lot about the hotels and condos :)

Stay at Edgewater, the place is wonderful. Read my earlier post! If you have big bucks to spend and want real luxury, stay at EnSoliel. spelling?, it is an Edgewater sister resort and is top of the line.

Chrissi

stay away from summit %26amp; sunbird, edgewater is great, everything is right there, 3 pools, hottubs, tennis, exercise room, par 3 golf course, palapas rest. on site is very good for breakfast, and edgewater mall across street has theater montego bay rest., bowling alley etc.

Why do you say stay away from the Summitt?

Someone may disagree with me, but seems to me that Long Beach resort has an awesome view of the beach from the balcony, a 40 ft balcony, and all the rooms have glass walls facing the ocean. Go to vrbo.com, and find a good rate, as they are having several last minute cancellations for the 4th of july...not sure when you are planning to come. The long beach resort is just a few steps from pineapple willy%26#39;s too, and they all say its great!

we looked at summit and they were not very friendly, the place was very dated and the rooms were musty. the unit we looked at even the ceiling tile was loose.

We%26#39;ve stayed at several places in PCB including Edgewater and the Summit twice each. We were happy at both places as were our kids. Some of the condos at the Summit are dated, but some are beautiful (just see photos before you book!). Two huge pools and a kids%26#39; playground on the beach are nice too. Across from Hammer Head Fred%26#39;s which is a great restaurant and we would walk to Spinnaker%26#39;s for lunch which was was nice.

Edgewater is more centrally located and within walking distance of more shopping and restaurants. It is a huge resort and more expensive. Not so sure you get your money%26#39;s worth there in comparison to the Summit but that%26#39;s just me!

Good luck!

Hey whocares why do you suggest avoiding the Sunbird?

beauty consultant

Best place to eat in MGM WITH 16 AND 13 yr old?

any ideas regarding the best place to eat at MGM? Both my husband and I like %26#39;nice%26#39; food but this holiday is also about the kids and I don%26#39;t want them sat in some stuffy restaurant looking bored! Was thinking about Brown Derby but not sure, how about sic-fi restaurant? What sort of age does it attract? are my children too old for sci-fi? Sorry for all the questions but am getting more and more confused by the day!

Best place to eat in MGM WITH 16 AND 13 yr old?

My vote is the 50%26#39;s Prime Time Cafe.

Here%26#39;s the lunch menu:

http://www.allearsnet.com/menu/menu_ptc.htm

Here%26#39;s the dinner menu:

http://www.allearsnet.com/menu/menu_ptcd.htm

Here%26#39;s a review page:

allearsnet.com/reviewpost/showproduct.php鈥?/a>

This one is a lot of fun!!

Best place to eat in MGM WITH 16 AND 13 yr old?

We ate at Holloywood and Vine a few weeks ago.

It is a buffet place, and if you are on the meal plan it is one table service. The Brown Derby counts for two meals.

The food was good (not fanstatic) and there was a wide range of food. The deserts were good, and small so you could taste a few different ones. But the place did not really have any ';special atmosphere'; just a regular restaurant

Hi,

Brown Derby is really nice, but it%26#39;s not sfuffy at all.

My first choice would be Prime Time. It%26#39;s very funny, and the waiters usually tend to ';harass'; the adults more in order to entertain the kids. I saw a group of kids in hysterics, as the waitress did the ';airplane'; maneuver to force feed carrots to their dad.Don%26#39;t miss is. Great fun!

ps. no elbows on the tables.

Another vote for Prime Time - we%26#39;ve booked it for our forthcoming trip - my kids are 12 and 14. We had such a good time last time that it was a must on our list. The food isn%26#39;s brilliant but it%26#39;s good staple fare. However, the fun is what makes this restaurant and, as long as your kids are prepared for a little ribbing they should really enjoy it. I think the waitresses can easily suss out those who really don%26#39;t want to be picked on - they usually pick on the dad of the family most of all, which the kids love.

I agree with the rest. The Prime Time is a fun place. Your kids will love watching the wait staff mess with you.

The food is nothing great, but it%26#39;s filling and a fun place to go.

My husband was wearing a ball cap, and the waitress would not serve him until he removed it. Then she teased him about his hat head. It was the highlight of my 10 year olds day!

And yet another vote for Prime Time!

Stay clear of Brown Derdy with kids. Prime Time and Mama Melrose offer pretty good food in a festive setting(although totally different) Sci-fi is basically a hamburger joint ,good for lunch.

Wow! can%26#39;t believe no one made a pitch for the Sci-Fi. I think the teens would get a kick out of it. From the entry you can%26#39;t see much except what looks like a tall wooden fence. Once you are led around it, you discover it is the ';fence'; around the Drive In Movie theatre. The lighting is a little dim with the whole surroundings done to make you think you are under the stars. On screen runs a continuous reel of old sci-fi and B-Movie clips (fun and corny at times). Seating is in ';convertibles'; and the food is served from a ';snack shop'; type of structure in back like you would see serving popcorn at a real drive in. I%26#39;d say food and price wise comparable to the Prime Time, and also on par with the interesting theme atmosphere. So, between the two I%26#39;d say go with what sounds most fun to your kids- movie theatre drive in or living a 50%26#39;s TV show for a meal. Both are neat in my book.

Just to confuse things a little, my teens like Mama Melrose.

Camping/Disney world

Has anyone been to Disney World and Stayed in their Camping facilities. How was it and would you go back?

Camping/Disney world

I%26#39;m guessing you are referring to Ft. Wilderness?

Correct me if I%26#39;m wrong.

Camping/Disney world

We stayed there our first time down with my son. It was great. If we still had a camper we wouldn%26#39;t hesitate to do it again.

For my birthday this year, I wanted a tent. Camping at Disney was the only thing I hadn%26#39;t done yet. I got my tent, went once, and had to admit everyone was right. I%26#39;m not the camping type.

With that being said, it really is a great place. If you are doing the tents, they have showers, electric, etc. There are sites for RV/Campers as well.

Fort Wilderness is huge! There are many things to do, it%26#39;s in a good location, and they have a great dinner theater called the Hoopty Doo Review.

If you are the type who likes to camp, then I would think you would really enjoy it.

Yea I guess, Not sure of the name. A friend of mine told me about it and I could not remember the name.

to: Ariesfire, We love to camp and have a fifthwheel.

But it will most likely be 2 adults. Need to try camping in something other than a tent. That is how we started out and then to a pop-up and now a fifthwheel. Love it! I am not a tent person, I do not like to stay wet and so sticky all the time when i sleep.

thanks

Of course, anyone who wants to try the campground, but isn%26#39;t the camping type, can always book one of the cabins with maid service and air conditioning. You get all the perks of the campground, and none of the pain. You can save money by cooking some meals in, and they sleep six, so they%26#39;re good for families. Just remember to rent a golf cart to get around.

We are going to try the Disney Lodge after the summer season.

I ordered a small electric A/C unit and blow up mattresses for the tent. Hubby was maaaaaad. Needless to say, you will probably see it on ebay.

The point we are all making, is Fort Wilderness is fun and a great place to try.

I agree with the golf carts. They are expensive, but worth every penny. You could rent bikes when I was there in April

We%26#39;ve never camped out but have stayed in the cabins and love them. My kids had plenty of other kids to play with and as others have said,there%26#39;s lots to do-the pool,petting zoo,nightly singalong and movie,horse barn,jogging trails. It%26#39;s not the most convenient place to stay but I think it is one of the best with kids and very pretty.

This information might help:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/faq_fw.htm

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Sunset sailing tour

My Frommer%26#39;s guide talks about a sunset tour of the Miami area on a schooner. Has anyone done this? Is it still in operation? Thanks

Sunset sailing tour

Gundi%26gt;

You can do a sunset sail out of Bayside Marina. The Duck Tour is fun but not a laid back sail - it is a bus that drives into the bay and then turns into a boat. For 90 minutes - you%26#39;ll have a BLAST!!!

AG

Sunset sailing tour

AdvisorGirl -- do you have a name for the boat line?

We have duck tours in Toronto as well -- I always shun that sort of thing as being so touristy and trashy. Have you ever done them?

Gundi%26gt;

Bayside Tour Boat Information

Dock Master

305-579-6955

Bayside Blaster (Speed Boat)

305-379-5119

Captain Jimmy鈥檚 Fiesta (Party Cruise)

305-371-3033

Horizon鈥檚 Edge (Gambling)

1-800-LUCKY-DAY

(1-800-582-5932)

Celebration Excursions Of Miami (Sightseeing /Charter)

305-373-7001

AG

Thanks so very much!!!

does anyone know the web address of the Animal Kingdom Lodge

Have looked everywhere and can%26#39;t seem to find the web address for the Animal Kingdom Lodge Hotel. I want to email them regarding our trip next week. Can anyone help please?

does anyone know the web address of the Animal Kingdom Lodge

407-938-3000 is the front desk number, if you didn%26#39;t see it (sorry, for you its long distance, but if worst comes to worst) that I got from:

鈥o.com/wdw/resorts/resortLanding鈥?/a>

does anyone know the web address of the Animal Kingdom Lodge

I, personally, have never seen direct email addresses for contacting the resorts or Disney itself. They keep those things very secret or simply don%26#39;t have them.

I%26#39;m afraid you%26#39;ll have to make a phone call to contact the resort directly.

Your best option is to call:

Walt Disney World Reservations: 407-WDW-MAGIC (939-6244)

Here%26#39;s good information:

http://www.allearsnet.com/tp/ak/ak.htm

Good pictures:

http://disneylinks.net/Parks/AnimalKingdom/

Best place to get disney tickets

I messed up my attraction ticket purchase in UK and was too late to order the disney tickets i wanted. We are staying in LBV Palm Parkway......I know the hotel sells them but was wondering if its still best to buy them from Disney or can anyone recommend elsewhere. We need 6days access

Best place to get disney tickets

I would suggest buying them direct from disney. You can buy a 7 day ultimate pass with them and you get the tickets, not vouchers which is something we were keen to get. We had planned on getting Virgin disney stuff, and they were about 拢5 cheaper each but I wanted real tickets in my hand when I left the UK. At least with Disney, you are not dealing through any third party.

Best place to get disney tickets

Please refer to the Orlando Forums Insider Pages for information in regards to where to purchase tickets.

It is strongly recommended that once you set down here in the states, that you should only purchase from the theme parks. What you could do is order your tickets on the internet directly from the theme park%26#39;s website and ask for your tickets to be held at ';will call'; window. You will get a slight discount and not have to wait in a big long line to purchase tickets.

I would go to MapleLeafTickets on Hwy 192 in Kissimmee. We have dealt with them right on line as well as walking in and purchasing discount tickets. It is very reliable, good deals and many other discount tickets for other things as well. We have dealt with them the last two times we have gone and have had no problems whatsoever.

www.mapleleaftickets.com

www.ticketmania.com is a good, reputable source.

place to stay near siesta key village

could anyone advise where is a good place to stay within walking distance of siesta key village...we are travelling from the uk early november with our 6 year old son...thanks

place to stay near siesta key village

Tropical Shores - Get one of the updated units. Some have been redone with all the upgrades (granite, tile, etc...) if it%26#39;s in your budget.

place to stay near siesta key village

Tropical Shores is always a great place to recommend, especially when dealing with families.

It is not in walking distance to Siesta Key Village, however.

It is on Crescent Beach and there are some nearby places to eat and shop.

If you have to be by Siesta Village you will have to think about another hotel/condo option.

~SRQgirl

thanks for your info...what about siesta key crescent beach?...that has had some good reviews?

The Tropical Shores Resort is on Crescent Beach.

Siesta Key Village is closer to Siesta Beach. These are 2 different beaches.

I would agree with Realtor1 regarding this hotel.

Great for a family with a 6 year old.

Not in walking in distance to Siesta Village.

~SRQgirl

sorry....talking about the siesta sunset motel on crescent beach..my mistake..

There are 2 different places to stay that are owned by the same people.

The Siesta Sunset Beach House is close to Siesta Beach and the Siesta Key Village.

The Siesta Sunset Crecent Beach is further south and by the shops and restaurants by Crescent Beach.

They have a website where you can see pictures of the rooms and a map of the locations.

WWW.siestasunset.com

~SRQgirl

SRQ Girl- we are staying at the Siesta Sunset Cresent Beach in a couple of weeks. You said it was close to the shops in the Cresent Beach area. We have not been to Siesta Key before, would you consider it to be within walking distance? Thanks!!!

Yes, you are in walking distance to the shops and restaurants by Crescent Beach. (We re talking about a few shops and restaurants, however, not a Main St. type downtown.)

You will love the beaches in this area.

Enjoy.

~SRQgirl

SRQgirl- Thank you!!!

We recently had a very nice stay at Sunsets on the Key. (www.sunsetsonthekey.com). Around the corner from the village and down the block to the beach.

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Any ';Don't Miss'; places to eat???

We are planning our vacation in July and I have been reading a ton of stuff about all the resturants on the key and in Sarasota. Can anyone recommend any ';don%26#39;t miss'; places to eat. We were looking to enjoy lots of good seafood. I was also looking at the Cafe Gabbaino. It looks great, my husband and I love authenic Italian. Can anyone reccomend this place or anything else that we have to visit. We also have children so we would also like places that are somewhat kid friendly. Thanks!!

Any ';Don't Miss'; places to eat???

Hi there, we go to Siesta Key every year (at the Crescent Beach end by Stickney Point), and our kids just LOVE ';City Pizza';. It is located in a little strip mall on the east side of Midnight Pass, just past the 7/11. It is the opposite of ';fancy';, but the pizza is great, and the waitresses always remember our kids. It%26#39;s always our first stop after arriving in the evening.

In the same mall is a Peruvian restaurant which always receives rave reviews....enjoy your trip!

Any ';Don't Miss'; places to eat???

ophelia%26#39;s on siesta key is a really nice restaurant on the water. there is a patio outside for dining, or just to take the kids out to while waiting for dinner. there is a dock out there. it is upscale (not cheap!), but sarasota is always casual.

Have been to Siesta Key many times and are going again in a couple of weeks. Always love breafast at The Broken Egg down in the village - their hash browns are particularly good, they have a good web site. Coasters is good too on Stickney Point Rd, also Rod and Reel on Anna Maria Island, worth the drive for good fresh sea food and great views.

I have to disagree with the poster about City Pizza. I will never go there again. The pizza was fine, but not good enough to endure being treated like we weren%26#39;t worth making a pizza for. We called in a pizza order, was told to pick it up about 25 minutes later. We arrived 25 minutes later and were told the pizza would be ready in 25 more minutes because AFTER we called in our order, they received a bigger order so they bumped them ahead. Maybe a fluke, and maybe a trivial complaint to some, but just their attitude about our inconvenience angered me. I%26#39;ll never go back.

Having ranted about the above, I can%26#39;t recommend Blase Cafe enough. GREAT food, cool atmosphere, and friendly wait staff.

Thanks everyone for your ideas! Does anyone know about Cafe Gabbaino? It sounds like they have a great menu. We can%26#39;t wait to get there, 18 days and counting........

The Broken Egg is a must for breakfast (get the hash browns no matter what else you order)

Any location of Barnacle Bill%26#39;s Seafood (best fresh seafood anywhere in Sarasota) - Trendy new location on Main St., original (not glitzy or trendy) location at Beneva %26amp; Webber or a new location in the Palmer Ranch area are all good.

The Table on Hillview is awesome too.

You have got to go to the Longhorn Steakhouse, it was wonderful and the service was great. We also went to Siesta Key Oyster Bar and it was very neat atmosphere, and it has good seafood. we have children as well and they liked it as well. We did have a bad experience with a waitress at Captain Curts, it was quite expensive and not nearly worth what we paid for it. As far as the Cafe you mentioned, I can%26#39;t help you there, I am not much for Italian food

Hope you enjoy your trip, we just got back on July 8th and we had an awesome family vacation.

You will love the beach.

Lynn,

We have been to Siesta Key every year for 6 years now. Just booked today for next spring for year 7. Our absolute favorite place to eat is Cafe Gabbaino. We typically stay on Siesta Key for a week and during that week Cafe Gabbiano is the only place we will typically dine at twice during the week. My kids also love this place and when asked where they wanted to have their birthday dinner this year, they said ';Cafe Gabbiano!'; even though it wasn%26#39;t possible to travel to Florida for a birthday dinner. The family that owns this restaurant moved to Siesta Key from New York City in 2004 when he sold his restaurant in New York City and ';retired'; to Siesta Key and opened Cafe Gabbiano. This is excellent Italian food. My husband and his family are Italian and even they approve. You will not be disappointed.

The other don%26#39;t miss spot is ice cream at Big Olaf%26#39;s Creamery. This is very popular. Don%26#39;t be put off by the line out the door, it goes quickly. One of the highlights of our vacation is when I tell the kids they can have ice cream everyday.

Also if you are looking for good seafood, check out the Lobster Pot. This is another don%26#39;t miss on my list.

Have a great time

Thanks everyone for all of your ideas. We can%26#39;t wait for our vacation to start.

SweetSailing-- Thanks for the information on Cafe Gabbaino. We can%26#39;t wait to try it. It is definitely on our list. I have already told my kids that we were going to be eating ice cream A LOT on vacation. The Lobster Pot is on our list to.

jhayden1994-- Thanks for the suggestions. Good to know that you guys had a great vacation. We have 9 more days!!!! yea...

I have to second the ice cream place, it was awesome, I can%26#39;t remember the name of it but it was kinda by SKOB, Daquari (sp?) Deck, We also got some ice cream that was in the Captain Curts Village, I am a sucker for good ice cream and got iti at both places

It will be interesting to hear about your trip if you decide to post when you return. We had a fabulous time, I posted the Siesta Key Trip Report, should you want to read it,

I hope your vacation is a memorable one

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Want a condo for a long weekend

Does anyone know of condos, apartments or efficiencies that are nice but that can be rented on a daily basis for a long weekend instead of having to rent for the seven day minimum that most places have. My husband and I want to visit Siesta Key in Sept. from a Thursday to a Monday or Tuesday.

Want a condo for a long weekend

That is going to be a tough one. There are some lovely B%26amp;B%26#39;s on siesta key. I think you can actually search them on this site.

Want a condo for a long weekend

I go to SK every year but I always stay at least a week. I do rememember seeing signs at some of the smaller motels along the beach that indicated less than a 7 night minimum. Check the Sarasota website under accommations. September is not a busy time of year so you should be able to find something.

I have never been to Siesta Key, but I%26#39;m looking at going with some friends in July. From what I%26#39;ve found, a lot of place are weekly, but I%26#39;ve found a few that aren%26#39;t.

Captiva Beach Resort (www.captivabeachresort) has different size rooms with full kitchens. It got good ratings on this site %26amp; is ranked #2 (but you can get a decent size room for $120/night).

Another really good one I found was Palm Bay Club (www.palmbayclub.com). They are ranked really well on this site as well. They have 3 different buildings - one right on the beach, one right behind it %26amp; one across the street, on the bay. The further away from the ocean you are, the cheaper. But, they have daily rates that are reasonable.

If you go to www.siestakeychamber.com, they will send you a little booklet with different places to stay, eat, shop, things to do etc. Along with that, I%26#39;ve been receiving brochures from different condos to check out as well (they%26#39;re all in the booklet though).

Hope that helps!

Well I found one...an actual condo that you can rent daily. Through their website it looks great. We%26#39;ll be heading down at the end of May so I%26#39;ll let you know how it is. www.siestabeachhouse.com

Well, how did you like your condo?????

Although it%26#39;s not a condo, I would recommend the Tropical Shores Resort. They have efficiencies and are a great value.

www.tropicalshoresresort.com

~SRQgirl

Thanks. I%26#39;ve actually been looking at Palm Bay Club, staying on the Bay side. The resort keeps telling me it%26#39;s only a short walk to the beach, but my husband insists its about a half mile. Do you know anything about the Palm Bay Club? Thanks!

The Palm Bay Club is a very nice place to stay. The Grand Tower is directly on Siesta beach.

Their web site is large with lots of photos.

www.palmbayclub.com

Also, you might want to look at some of the recommended places to stay on the Siesta Key page on Tripadvisor rather than the Sarasota page.

Any other suggestions? I want to be close to the beach, but would also like to have a nice pool for the girls. I%26#39;m starting to think we should maybe stay in st. Pete. It seems there are more places there directly on the beach that rent for partial weeks. Have you ever been to St. Pete beach?

Shopping

Hi All ,

Just doing some final plans on my trip in Aug , i see that there are 4 malls on the I drive Festival Bay , Orlando Prem, Pointe Orl and Prime Outlets .

My wife and i have dedicated 1day for shopping can you guys guide us to which would be the best options ( in order)

Not interested in only Disney stuff , but a place where we would be able to shop and get good bargains for anything ( clothes , shoes,electronics- want to upgrade my digi cam ) etc.

Tks in advance :)

Shopping

Only 1 day shopping!!!!

I think if you are just doing one day you should go to the Belz, there is loads of shops there. It is set out in small mall type units with loads of different shops with food courts included. Also right next to the mall there is designer outlets, with Coach (leather goods), Nine West (shoes etc) Saks Fifth Avenue, Kenneth Cole, Sony, Reebok and Nike , Bath Bed and Beyond, the list is endless. The prices are excellent too.

Premium Outlets are fab as well but not so many shops.

Festival Bay hardly has any shops in it and is not an outlet mall.

Enjoy your holiday, we are off to Florida in 2 weeks and can%26#39;t wait, this is our 8th time and I know my shopping!!!

Florida Mall is excellent but again is not an outlet and further out of the way. The Mall at Millenia is expensive but absolutely beautiful

Hope this helps.

Norena

Shopping

Prime Outlets (formerly Belz Outlets) is beginning a big remodel, so it may not be the best mall to visit. For clothes and shoes, a lot of people prefer Lake Buena Vista Factory Outlets, which is south of Disney on SR535. Premium Outlet Mall has more designer and upscale outlets, including jewelry and electronics.

All of the outlet malls have websites with store directories, so you can see what is available at each one. That would be the best way for you to decide which one would be best for you.

Thanks Flat. I was going to go to Prime outlets with my 13, and 16 year old in a week and half, for the tax free week. My be I will try the other instead.

I would personally go for the premium outlets. More shops more up to date!

I used to really like beltz/prime but as it is goin thro a refurb its not so good at the mo!

I would go for the lake buena vista factory outlet - it is smaller than Belz and not so overwhelming but you can still get some good bargains there - it has Reebok, Gap, Old Navy, and loads more. We got some great bargains on jeans there too.

One other point; pointa orland was a building site a couple of months ago, and probablly still is. Mallinium Mall is a little further north of I Drive, Dont know if the I Drive trolley goes that far. Then there%26#39;s Florida mall on Orange Blossom trail and Sandlake Road

Then there is one on 192 a couple of hundred yds east of 535 you, has a fasinating shop on there called Jo-Ann%26#39;s, will be spoilt for choice.

Belz (Prime) mall 2 is empty, Point was a building site the other week and point has nothing in it unless you want a speed boat ! Premium is by far the best. Florida mall is ok as is MM but more expensive.

shops which will appeal to teenagers?

I%26#39;ve been told Hot Topic in the Florida mall is a good place for my daughter to explore- any other ';trendy'; shops for teenagers?

shops which will appeal to teenagers?

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shops which will appeal to teenagers?

With 260 stores, I%26#39;m sure there will be something for your daughter. ;-) But be sure to take her the Premium Outlets first. Her money [or yours] may go further.

Here%26#39;s a site that lists all the shops at the Florida Mall.

orlandotouristinformationbureau.com/shopping鈥?/a>

My daughter likes Ron Jon Surf Shop at Festival Bay mall on I-drive.

My high school aged daughter votes for the Florida Mall, but she also likes the Mall at Millenia (more high-end, but worth a look.) She and I both love Orlando Premium Outlets. Best for back to school shopping....the Florida Mall!

forever 21 is a good one.

The Billabong store is great also

Pac Sun (Pacific Sunwear) is a fantastic shop it sells male/female skate/surf wear and usually at a cheaper price than a lot of other stores. They have stores at, Premium Outlets, Festival Bay Mall and Mall at Millenia. Possibly others too but not sure where.

All of the malls in Orlando have websites with complete store directories, so you can see in advance what%26#39;s available. Florida Mall has a wider variety of stores than Mall at Millenia, but it%26#39;s also more crowded and hectic. You will get more for your money at one of the outlet malls: Prime Outlets, Premium Outlet Mall, Festival Bay, or Lake Buena Vista Factory Outlets.

Thanks for all your help everyone- that gives me some more names to look out for. Someone had actually mentioned Forever 21 but i hadn%26#39;t written it down at the time and forgot about it- which mall is that in?

FYI, all of the recommended shops have websites for you to check out the merchadise. Hot Topic is definately different than PacSun or Billabong! It depends on her teen style.....

Her style is Emily Strange and anything like that- but the ';tamer'; Emily stuff- not the full on goth/punk look!

Help needed!

Hi,

I have just been lucky enough to win a trip to Orlando. We are hoping to go in November, possibly in the last two weeks. I have never been to the states before and there is so much to to take in! We will be staying at the Hard Rock Hotel for 7 nights.

I hope somebody can help with the following questions:

1. What is the weather like in November? (can I wear t-shirt %26amp; shorts and sunbathe)

2. Will there be xmas decorations and parades in November?

3. How far apart are the Universal theme Parks and the Disney theme Parks? Is it worth hiring a car.

Your help is appreciated.

Thank you

Help needed!

Wow. What a great thing to win!

Weather-Warm in the day, cooler at night. Usually high 70%26#39;s during the day. I would bring a jacket, long pants, a few long sleeve shirts, as well as shorts and short sleeve shirts.

Sunbath-People who are used to Florida consider it chilly. Tourist are out swimming and sunning.

Xmas decorations and Parades-Yes.

Worth hiring a car-YES!!!!! As far as I know, the Universal Hotels do not have shuttles to Disney. You could take a cab, but by the time you figure in time and expense, your better off renting a car.

Help needed!

Thank s for the advice, very helpful!

There%26#39;s one thing you need to be aware of at the time you%26#39;re going.

American Thanksgiving holiday is the 4th Thursday of November (this year it%26#39;s Nov. 23rd) and that particular week will be very, very busy at the theme parks, due to the holiday. Just be prepared for crowds and more crowds.

Also, the Friday following that day (Nov. 24th) is considered to be the biggest shopping day (because of Xmas) of the year in the U.S., so if you want bargains, go shopping that day, but again be prepared for crowds, crowds, crowds!! Sales can be great that day though, so crowds are sometimes worth the bargains.

Disney is about 10 or so miles from the Universal property, so if you can hire a car to go there, it is advisable. Otherwise, the expense to hire a taxi could be prohibitive, especially for multiple days.

The weather should be terrific for you at that time with a chance of a cool spell, but nothing real extreme I would think.

Kat mentioned the after Thanksgiving sales. Two tips: Buy the local newspaper on Thursday. It will have inserts with all the sales and store hours. Then get to the stores you want to visit as early as they open on Friday. You%26#39;ll get the merchandise you want and finish before you%26#39;re worn out. One year, I did all my Christmas shopping before 9am on that Friday.

The Thanksgiving weekend itself is extremely busy, almost the same as Christmas. But the days before, and more important, the week after, are much better. If you can plan other activities, such as shopping, for that weekend, it would be best. Also, you need to make any restaurant reservations for Thanksgiving Day well in advance. Many restaurants are not even open on the holiday, and the ones that are will book up many weeks ahead.

Most hotels and theme parks will have their Christmas decorations in place by Thanksgiving Day. There will be some Christmas themed shows starting that weekend. Disney doesn%26#39;t do their Christmas parade until just before Christmas (except at their Mickey%26#39;s Very Merry Christmas Party, an after hours, special ticket event), but their Candlelight Processional and Holidays Around the World at Epcot and Christmas festivities at the other parks will start Thanksgiving weekend. Universal usually has the Macy%26#39;s Parade, which starts up a few days after Thanksgiving weekend. The theme parks usually post their holiday offerings on their calendars and under ';special events'; on their websites.

A person after my own heart.

Unluckly for me I had to pay for my holiday.

Christmas decorations and fridge magnets were high on my list of things to bring home.

You can buy these all over the place. I bought mine in the Christmas Shops in Downtown Disney and in the Walt Disney world Magic Kingdom park.

There is a massive Christmas shop in Downtown Disney and in magic Kingdom there is a Ye Olde Christmas Shop in America town.

If you dont have a car with the holiday, then hire one. Universal is only north on I-4. Litteraly a straight road and you only turn off for Universal and boom your there.

Your going to be sick when you have to come home. June was my first holiday in America and I was nearly crying leaving the place. Its amazing and cheap. I can imagine the Hard Rock wont be cheap but outside of Disney you will save a packet buying stuff.

Make sure to get to the Premium outlets across the I-4 to pick up some bargains.

Remember before you leave, Florida has a sales tax so everything you seen advertised on the Internet, It usually will not include the tax. What is it everybody, 7%. Im not sure.

Hey Celtic :

Hard Roack is awesome!!! Ask for a view of the pool/park when you book. It is cool! Also you are right next door to Universal Studios and you will get a front of the line pass for all of the rides because you are staying in an official hotel!

You should rent a car to get to and from the airport and to Disney. I would allow 2-3 days for Universal and 3-4 days for Disney. Universal is much smaller than Disney, but it is just as fun!

Have a ball!

The Thanksgiving holiday may be a black out date with this winning, so check that before you go. This is a big travel holiday here. Good luck and have a good time.

thanks everybody!

The Mercado International Drive orlando

We are going to florida in March 2007, I would like to know if the mercado is still open? I read somewhere that alot of the shops had closed down, also is the live music still on in the evening?

The Mercado International Drive orlando

I%26#39;ve taken the liberty of moving your post to the Orlando Forum, where I think you are more likely to get it answered.

The Mercado International Drive orlando

The Mercado is a shell of what it used to be. For evening entertainment, you%26#39;ll have better luck going to Downtown Disney and Universal%26#39;s CityWalk

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single middle class parent

Disney or Universal

We ususally go to Universal but i think i would like to Disney again we will be bringing 14yr,two 13yr,12yr,6yr i love bothe places but we always do Universal and i want to get the 4day hopper w/plus pack what do you think we were going to ask the kids which won but i know they%26#39;ll all say Universal

Disney or Universal

Well, if the kids are into the ';thrill rides only'; then they may be disappointed somewhat in the Disney parks. They simply don%26#39;t have the big thrill rides Universal has.

That said, the Disney parks are all unique within themselves. There is much more to them than rides, and the shows are pretty much all spectacular.

For children that age, I%26#39;d suggest Epcot and MGM Studios to begin with, then Animal Kingdom and finally Magic Kingdom. The two waterparks and Disney Quest would probably be a big hit with the kids too.

Here is a website where you can do some research on all that%26#39;s Disney. Check it out and see if you can find enough for them.

http://www.allearsnet.com/index.html

Disney or Universal

Hi Poker,

I have 4 kids, similar ages to yours. They would all say Universal too. It is just more fun for them now that they are older. But, I still enjoy Disney, and I enjoy something in every park!

Here is what we have been doing: Go to Universal for 2 FULL days. Then go over to Disney for 3-4 days and go at a slower pace. We go to one park during the day, then to another at night (funny how we always end up in Epcot at night....must be the beer!!)

This way we still have a little bit of a relaxing vacation. All that full time park hoping gets exhausting!

Have a blast!

C

This is why we will be at Universal (in less than 2 weeks). My kids and hubby wanted no part of Disney! I love Disney, but they have had enough and want only Universal. To mix it up, we are going to Busch Gardens, which we dont usually do.

If you go to Disney%26#39;s website, they have a section that divides up the attractions, recreation, etc. by child ages, so you can get a list of things that are truly teen and pre-teen appropriate and figure out whether your children will be interested. I think a lot of it depends on the kids. Some are in it just for the thrill rides and some are in it for the complete immersion experience. Universal has the thrills, but Disney has the total experience down pat.

wait a minute--no real thrill rides at disney? how about the new expedition ride at animal kingdom? i won%26#39; t ride it, but i understand it goes downhill backwards fast, and is quite a wild ride. animal kingdom is cool and different, and has the water rapids ride, and a dinosaur coaster, and a cool lion king show.

and mission space at epcot? talk about thrills (another one i won%26#39;t ride). and soarin%26#39; at epcot is very cool.

mgm has stuff happenning too. prime time cafe is always funny for kids and grown ups--ever been there? tower of terror, rockin roller coaster....

and magic kingdom has space mountain, splash mountain, and other classics.

if you want to do disney, i vote for disney. theres plenty of new stuff, and some good rides.

have fun!

Why not do a mix of both and make everyone happy.

anyone book through priceline?

just curious if anyone has booked a hotel in coral gables through priceline and where you ended up staying and for what price if you did.

anyone book through priceline?

Hi there,

ive used priceline but for fort lauderdale, anyway check out www.biddingfortravel.com or betterbidding.com

both good websites related to priceline, you can see what people have paid and for which hotels,

I would use them again, we got a great bargain

amber

anyone book through priceline?

I had used Priceline for Coral Gables last year, and landed the Hyatt Regency for about $75 or $85 I believe. For the rate everyone else was paying at the time ($300 and up) I had a steal!!

It was a great hotel, the only downside to booking through Priceline was that I was given a room right by the elevator, but noise was not an issue.

I do not book anywhere else. When you can get as much as 75% off or more, why would i want to throw money away. Just make sure you ready www.biddingfortravel.com and also www.betterbidding.com to see what others have managed to get and what areas. However dont forget the BIG rule of priceline - NO REFUND NO MATTER WHAT, unless the hotel is closing down.

How far is it to the beach?

Hey!

Can anyone tell me how far or how long it takes to drive to the beach from Orlando?

Is Orlando worth it to stay there for 1,5 years?? I need to decide between Orlando and Miami Beach.

Thank you in advance ~ms.genie

How far is it to the beach?

The local experts can let you know about living there. but the nearest beach is Cocao Beach approx 1 hr away.

How far is it to the beach?

Orlando is almost more like a typical midwestern city, with colleges, museums, parks, churches, and a definite family feel. Miami has more of a latin flavor, and has a more vibrant night life. So it just depends on what kind of feel you%26#39;re looking for. It%26#39;s only about three hours drive (depending on whether you obey the speed limit) between the two, so you can live in one and visit the other.

Cocoa Beach is the closest beach, about 45 minutes from Orlando, but most people prefer the Gulf coast which is two hours west.

I have one word for you: HURRICANES. If you live in Miami Beach, you%26#39;re in a very vulnerable spot for hurricanes; it got some action from Wilma last year and from Katrina. If you live in Orlando, you aren%26#39;t as vulnerable, being that its a little inland. Yes, hurricanes affect Orlando, and Charlie hit Orlando directly in 2004, but it only hit Orlando with about 90-100 mile per hour winds (maybe 140-160 kilos per hour), as opposed to 150 mph (200+ kilos per hour) where it originally hit by the coast near Ft. Myers. The really scary thing is if Miami Beach was hit directly by a Charlie type storm. If you%26#39;re thinking about actually owning a condo or house in Miami Beach or Orlando, this should be a huge concern for you; property insurance is high in Orlando, but is getting much worse by the ocean, including Miami Beach. I like being able to visit Miami and Miami Beach if I like, but I%26#39;m too chicken to live there because of hurricanes.

I see from your posts on the Miami Beach forum that you%26#39;re not looking to own a place, just to rent. In that case, you won%26#39;t have to worry about that issue as far as hurricanes are concerned.

Well, I haven%26#39;t been to Orlando yet, but I can tell you my impressions of Miami. We were there for a few days about 10 days ago, and I%26#39;d never go back. It felt unsafe (someone tried to break into our hotel room while we were inside with the TV on!!), the service was incredibly poor in most restaurants, and when I went shopping, the shop owners followed me around and practically breathed down my neck. Then bugged me if I didn%26#39;t buy anything. I really didn%26#39;t care for it at all, and I%26#39;ve heard others say the same thing.

I would really suggest a good long visit in each place before settling down.

Mel

Thank you all so very much for your suggestions!! It really does help me a lot to get a good impression!!!

I thought it might be great to live close to the beach, but I was concerned about the safety and all these things. Nobody really told me any disadvantages of Miami Beach. So thank you very much!!! You always need to know the good AND the bad things about a city!!! Now I guess I have to learn more about the City Orlando *smile*. All I know is that Orlando has a lot of theme parks.. followed by a lot of tourists (obviously!). So I figure life is pretty expensive in Orlando. What is a good and not too expensive part to live? Is Orlando a good place to stay for 1,5 years? Is it easy to meet new people? What is the age average??

Thank you very much in advance! I appreciate your help!!!! ~ms.genie

Miami or Orlando....hhhmmm...Other than if you want to go to the parks every weekend I would have to say Miami. Orlando is fun, don%26#39;t get me wrong but Miami is a city.

bajathree:

There is nothing else to do in Orlando but going to theme parks? Does%26#39;nt Orlando have malls, restaurants, clubs or bars etc. as well?????

You are from Tampa, right?? Whats going on in Tampa? Is Tampa (maybe) the best place to go???? I%26#39;ve never been there before. The only place I%26#39;ve been to is Cape Coral!!! There are definately toooooo many retired people. Nothing against retired people, I love %26#39;em, but there was NOTHING to do for me (and I am 23 years old).

~ms.genie

Emerald Coast Realty/Islander Beach Resort

I have been looking into Islander Beach Resort in Ft. Walton. Has anyone rented from Emerald Coast Realty? They seem to offer an incredible amenities package--free chair and umbrella rental, free round of golf for everyday stay, dolpin cruise tickets...

has anyone used them before and is the amenities package ';for real?';

Also, would love your opinion on this particular resort--We are wanting a1BR or efficiency and they have this. Most of the other condos used by this realty co. are 2+ BR.

Also, any other Destin or Ft. Walton suggestions would be great. I have only been to Destin so I am very unfamiliar with the condos in Ft. Walton.

Emerald Coast Realty/Islander Beach Resort

Is the name of the rental agency Emerald Coast Realty or Emerald Coast Vacation Rentals?

Is it located in Destin?

Emerald Coast Realty/Islander Beach Resort

It is Brooks and Shorey Resorts Inc. Their website is emeraldcoastrentals.com--I am assuming it is Ft. Walton since all of their properties are there.

Altho I%26#39;ve never used Brooks %26amp; Shorey, I know they%26#39;ve been around for awhile. And I have heard of management companies offering beach chairs, movie rentals, etc. I would assume they are trying to sway so many people that rent directly from owners (www.vrbo.com).

As with most condos, the Islander are individually owned %26amp; decorated units, so you might ask for pics of the unit you%26#39;ll be renting. Some of those studios are pretty small, so you might also ask for square footage, if that is a concern. I%26#39;ve seen some pics on the internet of Islander units, %26amp; the ones I%26#39;ve seen looked just fine.

And if you aren%26#39;t happy with the unit you are given, I suppose you can always go back to the office %26amp; ask for something else!

I%26#39;ve rented through Brooks %26amp; Shorey the last 3 years(emeraldcoastrentals.com) %26amp; have friends that have been using them longer. Everyone has always been happy with them. Their amenities package is the real deal. There is also a direct number for the Islander that you can call. It%26#39;s 888-244-4137. I looked in a 2 bedroom unit that a friend was staying in and it looked nice. The pool area is big. We have always stayed at Emeral Towers West. It%26#39;s right next to the Islander. Emerald Towers West %26amp; Gulfside Condos have 1BR. You might want to look at these too. 2 years ago a friend had a 1BR rented through the Islander %26amp; when she got there it was on the west side of the building. She didn%26#39;t like it so they gave her a room at Emerald Towers. I%26#39;ve looked at the efficiency%26#39;s on vrbo.com and they look like the size of a motel room with a kitchenette. I would consider staying in an efficiency if you don%26#39;t need much room. They are gulffront, so you would have a good view. This year when we got to our room, 2 of the tv%26#39;s wouldn%26#39;t work. I called their office %26amp; they had somebody up there immediatly to fix them. I think they%26#39;re very helpful. I like the girl in the Brooks %26amp; Shorey office when I%26#39;m trying to make reservations. I think her name is Barra, try to talk to her. You can ask her anything, Good Luck!

which hotel with a teenager

Hi, we will stay 15 days in august in Orlando but don%26#39;t now in which hotel. I like the Royal pacific but that%26#39;s above my budget.

Six years ago we stayed in the Delta resort but i understand that the hotel is closed now.

Can anybody give me advise which hotel to choose for me and my daughter (16). Her only wish (??) is a huge pool and a fitness room.

I%26#39;m thinking of Sheraton vistana or one of the Marriott village hotels.

which hotel with a teenager

I have 3 teens we are staying at Windsor Hills in 10 days. Has a great pool with water slide and a fitness room. Great rates on 2 and 3 bedroom condos. Gets good reviews, close to WDW and new.

which hotel with a teenager

The World Center Marriott has wonderful pools with great slides and several hot tubs around . The rooms are just fine,standard issue Marriott. The pools at the Marriott Village hotels are nice,but not fancy. But you can use all three of them at the three Marriotts.

Perhaps have a look at the Sheraton Safari aswell.

Nice hotel,good location, with fitness centre and large pool with waterslide.

The theming gives it that little bit of extra character too.

Which theme parks do you plan to spend the most time in? The Sheraton and Marriott you mention are fairly central to all the parks. If you plan to spend all your time at Disney, the Sheraton Safari is very close to Disney. If you plan to spend most of your time at Universal, there are many hotels on Kirkman Road near the main entrance, such as the Doubletree and Holiday Inn, that would be very convenient.

We will rent a car, but shops nearby are also very welcome.

Our plans are Seaworld, universal/adventure island, animal kingdom, epcot,gatorland, silver springs, a waterpark, horsefarm visit, maybe a day to venice beach or tampa (busch gardens) and all the malls (shopping).

Is Marriott world center not too big, its looks like a huge fabric to me?

Depending on your budget....my daughter (15 year old teenager) LOVES Hard Rock hotels.

Why not dump the teenagers off at the Magic Kingdom with their hopper passes, some cash and tell em you will pick em up before the flight leaves to return home LOL.

Then you and hubby can pick whatever hotel YOU want!

Just kidding......

Nickoldeon has mega waterslides. Pop Century is cool but you only get one room unless you book two rooms adjoining.

Maybe a Villa ?

Jokelady

If Sheriton Vistana is in your budget, check out this location as and altrnative.

www.orangelake.com

Orange Lake country club and resort has lots of activities for teenagers and adults. The club house is a great gathering place for teens to meet . The are also many pools on the resort. Although the resort is huge, ther is a shuttle bus on site to carry your or you teen to any location on the resort.

The resort is about 3 miles from World Drive and easy access to Disney.

However Sheraton Vistana and Marriot Village are closer to Universal and the shopping malls.

Anyway, just giving you some options. Hope you have a great time.

Check out a previous post on Orange Lake

tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g34515-i19-k622713鈥?/a>

The Marriott World Center is pretty big,it%26#39;s a convention hotel. But that has a lot of advantages besides the great pools. WE found excellent rooms service,which is getting rarer and rarer and a lot of amenities like the business center.

How can I keep the blankets on my baby?

Getting Around

Hi Everyone:

I%26#39;m thinking of staying in Mayfair Hotel %26amp; Spa, Coconut Grove after my cruise. What is the cheapest way to go there from Port Everglades? I was thinking of cab to the airport and take Tri Rail to Miami and cab again. Is there a better(maybe cheaper) way? Time is not really an issue since the disembarkation is around 10-11 a.m. and the check in time is not till 3:00 p.m. Thanks a lot!

Mon

Getting Around

If you have any amount of luggage, I cannot recommend Tri Rail. It is very difficult to get luggage on and off quickly. I have to say that TriRail in general is not as dependable , comfortable or organized as many from other cities with well developed mass transit expect. It%26#39;s still working out many kinks. I would look for a shuttle or some other means- though of course it will be pricier.

If you visit www.cruisecritic.com, others who have made the trip may have advice for you.

beauty consultant

Blizzard Beach vs. Typhoon Lagoon

I am wondering which water park people prefer. We will be traveling with 4 adults and 5 kids between 9-16. If we had to rate on the fast and furious scale, our ride preference would be about 6-7. Thanks for your help.

Blizzard Beach vs. Typhoon Lagoon

Blizzard Beach!

Blizzard Beach vs. Typhoon Lagoon

We prefer Typhoon Lagoon for the lush tropical feel, however since your looking for more fast and furious I would go with Blizzard Beach.

Here are some links with great pictures:

Blizzard Beach - http://disneylinks.net/Parks/BlizzardBeach/

Typhoon Lagoon: http://disneylinks.net/Parks/TyphoonLagoon/

Blizzard Beach has great slides and a better family slide. Typhoon lagoon is prettier, has a great wave pool, the snorkel thing, and the new slush n%26#39; gusher water coaster. Both are great.

Don%26#39;t buy the Water Fun %26amp; More option on your Disney tickets if you are just doing one day at the Water parks - getting single day water park tickets are less - see www.ticketmania.com.

We spent 1/2day at Blizzard Beach, and 2 1/2 days at Typoon Lagoon becasuse we liked it so much. The wave pool a blast even though it%26#39;s not a slide, fun fun fun!! and Typoon also has the new crush and gusher ride we could of road that all day, it has three serperate slides and it%26#39;s a fast one that rides 2 or 3, god I love that one, never waited inl line very long either. I noticed that Blizzard beach lines took a little longer. We just got back last week. You really can%26#39;t loose at either place. Have fun!

Blizzard Beach!!! I saw it ranked #2 in the country, on the travel channel, and had to go!!! I have a friend in Orlando, we are both in our 30s we go to BB every time I go to visit. There is something for everyone!! Have a blast.

The slides at BB are fast but very smooth. At TL, I felt like I was getting spanked. It was so bumpy. So unless you%26#39;re a fan of getting rough treatment, go for BB. I can hardly wait, myself.

My personal favorite is Typhon Lagoon for the tropical feel. However you can%26#39;t go wrong with either. Just pick which theme you want, tropical or snow in summer.

I have no idea which is better as me and mine only went to Typhoon and we loved it, the swimming with sharks is cool and the raft rides are loads of fun,

It was one of our favorite days during our fortnight in Florida.

So pick one and even both and have fun

Mick

airport to st petes

I went from orlando to st petes and that took 90 mins than add say another 30 so it would be 2 hours

Neil

airport to st petes

That sounds about right.

calypso towers

I am looking for review of calypso towers. I can%26#39;t find anything really. I know that it is new and just opened. made reservations on bookit.com now I am wondering if I should have just called the direct reservations line. Any help would be appreciated.

Kim

calypso towers

kim,

check out www.waterstoneresorts.com , then pull up on their resort listings . hope this helps you out .

'; t '; n ky.

calypso towers

I have heard nothing but great things about the resort. I know an owner that has a three bedroom for $1500 a week which is a steal for this resort. I can give you info if you would like.

lanna@tds.net

We went in to them when they were first built, just out of curiosity since the building was so beautiful. They are VERY nice. And one of the best restaurants in PCB is right across the street :)

Hey guys,

Thanks so much for the advice. I did check and the bookit website charges a nights lodging if I cancel, so I will keep the reservation I have. I am taking my Mom, Brother, Sister in-law and Nephew for a few days. We grew up going to PCB and I have a condo at Emerald Beach Resort which is not yet completed. I have used this site often as I travel all over the world. It has been a life saver for me. Thanks again!

Kim

I know nothing about the calypso towers, but I am intimately acquainted with the dealings of Bookit and it may be too late for you to consider making your own reservations. You should go to your electronic confirmation sheet and choose to print out your ';hotel voucher.'; Read the fine print toward the bottom concerning cancellations. And check your reservation dates while you%26#39;re there!

I recently had a horrible experience with Bookit making reservations for the wrong dates in Panama City Beach which resulted in my losing around $250. It is a VERY long story. In the midst of the fiasco I called one of the condos I booked through them and found that I could have had it for $50/night less. Lesson learned. I would never recommend using Bookit.

Just got back....Stay tuned for review

Unfortunately I don%26#39;t have time to write my detailed trip summary right now but stay tuned. There%26#39;s lots of good info coming your way!!

Just got back....Stay tuned for review

Great to hear from you Pennstate! Look forward to reading your review!

Just got back....Stay tuned for review

Glad you had a good trip!

tap tap tap tap....

Sound of Jokelady patiently waiting LOL.

Smiles

Jokeylady, you crack me up.

Of course I looked too, cuz I always want to see what people think of Soarin and Exp. Everest. how%26#39;s the ';coin rolling coming along';?

Your Pal,

Princess Plainfudge

Coin rolling is doing ok but someone stole all my empty%26#39;s so that set us back 30 bucks LOL. I guess the homeless guy needed them more then my foster kids. We will have enough cash saved in time. I start now and it doesn%26#39;t hurt as much on the wallet by travel time. The kids have been saving their allowence. The oldest could have spent it this weekend but was brave and saved it for better things in Disney.

pennstate is gonna have me on pins and needles for the rest of the day now. I like reading reviews and it makes me mad when they leave me hanging like a bad B movie LOL.

Hows tricks with you moose? Hot and dry here. Kids have been enjoying endless days at the park. I am already tired after only 2 weeks with 7 kids LOL. I am 42 and I just don%26#39;t have the jam in me like I use to. Remember those days when we could stay up all night and go to work the next morning? I am yawning at 7 PM these days LOL.

I was at the museum yesterday and saw some hissing cockroaches. I didn%26#39;t have any fudge with me but I did taunt them verbally and tell them if I did... THEY WEREN%26#39;T GETTIN ANY. (grin)

Next week is our big fair here in town. I will get my fudge fill there until I head back to Disney in late January early Feb. I need to buy a Mickey Mouse toaster for my new house. I am kicking my butt I didn%26#39;t last time. I need some Disney blankets and some towels too. Man I wish we had a Disney store here that sold that stuff. Our%26#39;s only sells clothes and toys.

Missing Mickey big time.

Jokelady

hehehe

tap tap tap tap tap tap tap.... patiently waiting ... STILL

Jokelady, have you tried the online site?

http://disneyshopping.go.com/

Hey Jokelady,

Sorry your empties were stolen :-(

things are Hotter than HELLO in Cow Hampshire. I am not a fan of anything over 80, which is why I only visit Disney in the Winter.

I%26#39;m glad you%26#39;re going Jan-Feb. You will get more for your money (shorter lines). Sorry you can%26#39;t stay on the property, but I%26#39;m sure you%26#39;ll muddle through.

Kudos to you for giving the cockroaches a tongue lashing.7 kids? O_M_G!!!

Have a great weekend...Moose

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